what that allows us to do is use metadata that we have acquired under executive order whether it's phone records or e-mails through u.s. selectors to figure out social networks abroad.

i realize there is a lot of metadata going on.shopping at the grocery store infusing your grocery store credit card and the ads you get her going to be different. if you are buying things for young children or if you are buying a nice bottle of wine. do you understand the concern is more and more things come out when it turns out for example the nsa members were checking their love interests and using the tools of nsa. americans like their privacy. they like their security but they like their privacy to me. understand the concern that we are getting. simply doing metadata a lot of people think that they are on social media and whatnot what not that there's some expectation of privacy, less obviously but some. >> i do agree chairman but the differentiation that i make in terms of metadata for these purposes is the phone numbers to and from or the e-mail addresses to and from any issue we face in trying to figure out where we take this legislation is how do we do this in such a way that we can ensure the american people know we are

the web tool counts metadata

according to the washington post, the agency has processed millions of records ranging from metadata such as audio and video. the text sites those from edward snowden. >>> people driving on the san mateo bridge might see some unusual work going on with the transmission lines running next to the bridge. pg&e linemen are hanging from helicopters as they replace the high-capacity electric lines that cross the bay. it's called long lining. that was going on this morning on one of the towers at the west side of the bridge nearest foster city. >> this is actually practice -- this is a practice that pg&e pioneered. we were the first to use long lining and have used it for a

the web tool counts metadata records from around the world that displays the totals of several different formats. the sources of the meta-data in the data legally collected by the nsa under various authorities as well as data provided to nsa by foreign partners. to be perfectly clear this is not information that we collected on european citizens. it represents information that we and our nato allies have

gathering of phone call information in france and spain, 60 million phone calls in spain, that was metadata. it was not the contents of phone calls. they're beginning to exchange information about the true extent of this surveilance. >> one of the arguments i've heard and i'm sure u.s. officials are making this privately to their counterparts from the european delegations coming here, the u.s. has so much more of a sophisticated capability. the u.s. can find things out that their intelligence agencies can't find out in the end this will help prevent terrorist operations whether in spain or germany or france or other friendly countries. >> that's exactly the argument that people like mike rogers are making to the europeans. i spoke to a member of the delegation from london and he

>> they are definitely collecting metadata. can pinpoint where someone is, who people are meeting with, that sort of thing. and if you are communicating with someone outside of canada, which is pretty much most canadians, then that information could be collected and we could be talking about visiting into phone calls and reading e-mails. that's what a thing. -- about listening into phone calls and reading e-mails. that sort of thing. so the nsa has the ability to sweep up our information and then canadian officials can then get access to that. that sort of thing is really quite canadians want to know how many canadians, law-abiding canadians, are being swept up with this activity and what information of ours is being stored and collected in these giant databases. >> absolutely. i'm sure that a lot of people would want to know the answers to those questions. so is talk about this lawsuit. what are they suing for and what are we hoping to achieve? >> the clvcla is arguing that collecting the information is unconstitutional and so

this metadata collection is often shared with others.t 60 million spanish calls a month. that's metadata, not intercepting of the phone calls themselves. that's make this clear. nsa would have to have several million employees if this were true. it's not true. much of this data is shared with partners. there is much plausible deniability on all sides that european governments don't want to admit they're helping the americans. the intelligence business is by its nature secret. we're going to have a congressional review of all this. that's probably an excellent idea right now. but the idea of fully transparent intelligence goes against the very nature of the animal. >> john shindler, thanks very much. john was mentioninging this hearing that's going to take place on capitol hill, an open hearing which is unusual on these practices. >> there could be some fireworks there. john, thanks so much. now, if you're just joining us, president obama's signature and a little controversial health care law under fire at a congressional hearing right no

is kind of bulk matted metadata collection program members of congress where we're trying to see if the n.s.a. could go along with a program more like subpoena to subpoenaing telecom communication companies for information on their users rather than just bulk collecting all the data. the government just ball collecting all the data itself yes a chief general keith alexander and d.n.i. director clapper kind of push back against. seems likely just last sam sachs but we will come back to him begin get that up and working again and just today r.t. sat down with ecuadorian president rafael correa during his visit to moscow korea isn't russia not to talk about the n.s.a. but rather to boost the friendly relations that already exists between the two countries the relationship between ecuador and russia gain new momentum this year as the two countries align their support behind former u.s. government contractor edward snowden r t s alexey you're a chef he has more from the president korea. is now in moscow the very same city where edward snowden they whistleblower now resides on the his politic

the authority to scoop up all our method phone metadata. that the n.s.a. has been that the programs have been revealed by edward snowden here and the n.s.a. kind of ruffled about general keith alexander who's the chief of the n.s.a. said that getting rid of the section two fifteen of the patriot act could put the country at a risk and and leave the united states open to another terrorist attack so they weren't really open to that reform in particular some of the other reforms they said they were open to and sam what some likelihood that we'll actually see some kind of change come out of this hearing. well there's a pretty good likelihood i'd say it's important that a lot of these individual files a court reforms are incorporated into a broader n.s.a. reform bills that have been introduced and when it comes to the chances of these bills passing there's by. partisan support which is something that it's unusual around congress here in bipartisan support to movies and this was something that congresswoman jan schakowsky said today at the hearing here's a clip.

>> i do think the metadata program has to be reexamined.his is something i raised years before it became public. i don't see the government has to require this data. i don't know why we can't go to telecommunications providers when we have reason to believe a number is connected with a terrorist plot. there's been a lot of talk about we need the haystack to look for the needle. we don't need that. the telecommunicating companies can hold onto the haystack. i believe in its current form it should end and be restructured. we can get the information to protect the country we need to without a wealth of data. they should meet three tests, constitutional, effective and structured in a way to minimize any unnecessary intrusion on privacy. >> thank you so much, congressman schiff, look forward to watching the hearing and q&a. >>> abortion issue wendy davis filibustered again but failed to block. they have been ruled unconstitutional by a federal judge in texas and will not go into effect today as scheduled. the law would require any doctor perform

it restricts patriot act sections 215, the "metadata" collection program. it has support from republicans and democrats. and it has a companion bill that was introduced in the senate by democrats. patrick leahy. so looks like something will get passed and he comes to the nsa. it will be passed in the standalone bill and something in the authorization pack that needs to be done by the end of the year. but it still remains to be seen whether it will be more meaningful reform or something watered down. >> we will have to wait and see. but the latest centered on spying on world leaders. did members of congress or official speak to that at all? >> yes, they spoke to it than the chairman of the intelligence committee gave deference to the nsa on this one. he said, this is what happens in the defense world. frances spying on the u.s. he does not have a problem with the u.s. spying on world leaders. knowing the plans and the intentions of world leaders is a basic tenet of surveillance, surveillance 101. on the other side of capitol hill, in the senate, senate intel

when it comes to changing the business provision in section 215 metadata our committee is value addinghether we can get away from the book collection and move closer to the system used in criminal prosecution systems of our country. telecommunication providers would respond to a subpoena to give the government information about metadata. phone numbers no content. the informational come from what the providers have in their business records. as i said in my opening statement this is the most operationally challenging proposal and we know we have a lot of issues from the operation technical point of view to move toward with this but it's critically important we evaluate what can keep the operational capability of the program to keep our country safe. we talked about that and you have testified that this does keep our country safe and it's safe to say that if we have this program before 9/11 there was a good possibility that we would have identified the fact that one of those terrorist was in the united states coordinating the attack. it's like finding a needle in a haystack. if you have

telephone metadata reveals only phone numbers and time and length of calls.ks usually include e- mails, addresses, business information, and other personal information. internal documents at the nsa also acknowledge the problem of over collection, noting that nsa databases have been overwhelmed by the mass collection of contact lists loaded with spam. indefensible programs like this, the nsa chief keith alexander has said they are critical counterterrorism tools and ultimately "you need the haystack to find the needle." moving on, those snap chats -- snapchats you're sending maybe be getting viewed, just not by the person you want. snapchat allows users to -- to send photos and videos that automatically self-destruct in a matter of seconds. actually, this multimedia message sticks around a bit longer. it may be available to law enforcement. in a message posted on its website this week, snapchat admitted that it can leave -- it can access media not opened. if they receive a search warrant from law enforcement, and the contents are still on the servers, a feder

the telephony metadata program that scoops up data belonging to american citizens as well this program that captures address books and buddy lists give the n.s.a. a lot more information to work with as they create social maps and look for connections to foreign targets telephone metadata reveals only phone numbers and time in length of calls but address books usually include emails addresses business information and other personal information. internal documents at them as they also acknowledge the problem of over collection noting that n.s.a. databases have been overwhelmed by mass collection of contactless loaded with spam and defensive ball programs like this the n.s.a. chief keith alexander has said they are critical counterterrorism tools and that ultimately quote you need the haystack to find the needle. well beyond those snap chats you're sending you know who you are maybe getting viewed all right but just not by the person you want septet allows users to send us photos and videos that automatically self-destruct in a matter of seconds or so users think but actually this multime

work with as they create social maps and look for connections to foreign targets while telephone metadata reveals only phone numbers and time in length of call address books usually include emails addresses business information and other personal information or internal documents at the n.s.a. also acknowledged the problem of over collection noting that n.s.a. databases have been overwhelmed by mass collection of contact lists loaded with spam and defense of bulk collection programs just like this the n.s.a. chief keith alexander has said that they are critical counterterrorism tools and that ultimately quote you need the haystack to find the needle. so do you miss the good old days when things have stopped since when things were the real deal and not all filler or all crop well those days are long gone and now we're in the crop era residents laurie harvest explains. this story is full of crap and i apologize but we're fed so much crap by our corporations and government every minute of every day and i just can't take it anymore a recent paper published in the american journal of medicine

s ability to engage in bulk collection of americans phone metadata under section two fifteen of the patriot act the bill also strengthens rules against targeting americans with searches of the n.s.a. databases and gives companies the opportunity to release just how many orders they've received from the government to turn over their customers data now to break down all these issues and other tech stuff in the news i'm joined by archie's a steve the web producer and your book a sad injury thanks for coming on here so let's break down the story about lava bit and this was an e-mail service used by edward snowden and four hundred thousand other people exactly but i'm guessing it was the edward snowden affair that really brought the attention over you tell me here what have we learned about how the federal government put pressure on this company that eventually forced it to close its doors ok back up a few months first guardian leaks this first big n.s.a. leaks first week in june ok june ninth edward snowden comes out there we see the video is everywhere him sitting in the hong kong hotel room w

collecting any data on us citizens and then we have yeah we're collecting data but it's only the metadata don't worry about it guys go back to do whatever you're doing before. in kanye west or together disco focus on that stuff and then it comes out that oh they're actually harvesting hundreds of thousands in a single day hundreds of thousands of people's address book contacts people who have no connection to terrorism or crime and by the way people who are u.s. citizens so we have a situation where the u.s. government is taking our taxpayer money and then turning around and using that money to spy on us in our own country it's unheard of and it's also kind of on heard of the you broke a story when you interviewed n.s.a. whistleblower russ tice there is this strong possibility that the n.s.a. targeted president obama at the beginning of summer two thousand and four why hasn't obama looked into this what other world leader if told that his own intelligence agency was spying on him years before he even ran for the presidency one of the world leader be totally ok with that yeah and think abo

the telephony metadata program that scoops up data belonging to american citizens as well this program that captures address books and buddy list give the n.s.a. a lot more information to work with as they create social maps and look for connections to foreign. gets telephone metadata reveals only phone numbers and time in length of call but address books usually include emails addresses business information and other personal information internal documents at the n.s.a. also acknowledge the problem of over collection noting that n.s.a. databases have been overwhelmed by mass collection of contactless loaded with spam and defensive bulk programs like this the n.s.a. chief keith alexander has said that they are critical of counterterrorism tools and that ultimately quote you need the haystack to find the needle. speaking of the n.s.a. leaks the man who first wrote about them for the guardian glenn greenwald announced on tuesday that he's leaving the guardian for a new independent journalism project a statement posted on his website greenwald wrote my partnership with the guardian has be

there are different programs and metadata programs and there's -- >> you said we're not listening inne calls and i can assure you if you're a u.s. person we're not listening in on your phone calls. i have the exact quotes. >> i'm not sure what question you're asking because when it comes to matters of section 215 and 202, they're very zing when it comes to metadata versus other kinds of collection. they're distinct. the president in all he has said about this issue not just since the disclosures but even before them reflects his commitment to ensuring that we do everything we have to do within the law to keep america safe, keep americans safe and keep our allies safe but that we do so in a way that reflects the need to find balance and to -- that can arizes this sincere security, i mean rather privacy concerns that americans have and that others have around the world. >> and the "wall street journal" article that has been mentioned in this briefing, the main thrust of it is that the president was unaware that you this kind you have surveilance was going on of foreign leaders in the i

but the idea of collecting metadata on americans. i think there is some people activists, seekers, writers, journalists that are legitimately upset about this. i'm not entirely sure the american public would begin to litigate this. >> i wouldn't go to aca. i don't think that's a good analogy. i do think good analogy to drones, deportation, all these policies that rhetorically, especially when he was running for office first time around he distanced himself from. then all of a sudden, inch by inch, moment by moment, we realized he's doubled down on some of the policies bush and cheney began. the american people, as for their anger, i don't know why they aren't more outraged. we're seeing left and libertarians come together for the first time in a long time to express some outrage. i think people think oh, we trust that our government is doing the right thing with this information and keeping us safe post 9/11. there's going to be more and more pressure for the government to actually say when has tapping world leaders phone calls, this

revelation that came out yesterday about metadata it came from edward snowden as i mentioned i met a data analysis that was released by the guardian says quote the marina medicaid application tracks a user's browser experience gathers contact information content and develops summaries of targets this tool offers the ability to export the data in a variety of formats as well as create various charts to assist in the pattern of life development of the more distinguished features marina has the ability to look back on the last three hundred sixty five days worth of d.n.a. i met a data seen by the signet collection system were guard lists of whether or not it was test collection so doesn't this show andrew that i'm going to reply to everything absolutely everything that i think i said was a lie oh i am wrong not necessarily i mean if you really want to look at this i would go back and look at what senator ron wyden said during a senate intelligence committee hearing back in i believe march of this year and then last week now wyden has been a longtime opponent of these surveillance progra

the author of the patriot act, and among other things it will put restrictions on the gathering of metadata, as well as refining the extent to which america can engage in foreign intelligence, and presumably that will take into account spying on foreign leaders. >> randall in a lot of instances what the public finds out concerns what goes on in the house intelligence committee isn't learned until decades later, but that being said what is the house saying about this latest brouhaha. >> that's an interesting point, because in the first place ordinarily we hear nothing from the administration or congress about intelligence matters. they are after all top secret issues, and usually the comment you get no comment. but now we have the house select committee on intelligence having a rare, open, public hearing on intelligence, we have the white house responding to the allegations about what president obama may or may not have known back in 2010, going so far as to issue a press release in which the public affairs office for the national security agency denied reports in the german press that the p

the stored metadata includes a vast personal records of internet use, including browsing history and account passwords. the online information is stored in a database code-named marina. dirty three people have been detained in texas after crossing into the u.s. from mexico as part of her protest against record deportations. livedocumented youths who in uss children as well as through their parents are being held at the laredo crossing. it is the second time in three months that undocumented immigrants attempted to reenter the u.s. through an official point of entry. wasoup called the dream 9 held for three weeks after trying into enter the u.s. in july. all nine are now seeking asylum. on monday, the activists marched across a bridge connecting mexico to u.s. wearing graduation caps and gowns, chanting "undocumented and unafraid." two marine corps generals have been forced into early retirement over security lapse in afghanistan last year. major generals charles gurganus and greg sturtevant were found to have committed a series of errors that led to militant attack on u.s. base, leav

the phone metadata does not include your name or address it is basically -- addressed. it is basically a number of cell phone numbers connected to other numbers, along with the duration of the calls, but on those cameras, it shows a photograph of you in your car, your license plate, where you are going at a particular time of day. you are right. these issues will be more complex, it will require more attention to make sure we protect privacy. i am not aware of any proposal to use those cameras for tax purposes, but you do see on toll very, which are ran in a conservative areas, we have a toll road in orange county -- the transponder is used for people to go through the toll booths without having to slow down. most people accept that, but that is a form of electronic tracking. so, this is going to be an issue that does not go away in the future, and with advances in technology, the focus will change, but that issue, i think, would become magnified. in cedar town, georgia, on our line for democrats. caller: thank you for the opportunity to express my opinion. representati

and brits are collecting vast trophies of metadata overseas, vast amounts of information, storing themit necessary. how has that hurt us overseas? >> i think it's important to separate the public rhetoric from private discussions. lets be clear, espionage takes place in the shadows. i'm not so sure these articles and these revelations shed as much light on that shadowy world we might assume reading the papers. what i found interesting was when the director of the national intelligence and nsa testified in congress. they made a very compelling case much of what you read is just not accurate. the reason it's difficult to cover this is because there isn't full disclosure. until there is, it's hard to have a really educated discussion about it. >> i apologize, we're going to have to interrupt because the president is speaking right now. you know the drill. adam ereli. the president is at the justice department. >> when we do business together and trade and have partnerships it's good for all of us. i want more american production being sold in your countries. i want your companies investin

you can learn a lot about metadata. being able to track e-mails we send from here, overseas. do we have as president in two years? if we have ted cruz or mitt romney, how are we to be secure that data, that trove of lawful american activity doesn't begin to be used in more pernicious ways? i think it is a real estate for us -- >> how do you know it isn't happening right now? snowdenevelations of and extensive -- the massive amount of surveillance not only within the u.s., but in other countries by the nsa. what is been impact in places like egypt of these revelations? >> there's been a huge spillover. you see it most prominently in places like brazil, of course, because it turns out some of you surveillance particularly targeted the president and some of her communication as well as businesses. but we also see it in the u.k. because of the revelation about the collaboration, the sharing of this information with israel. it has prompted multiple lawsuits that are seeking some clarity. it is also important to note it has pushed some of the telecommunication and internet someders

they say that any information, any of this metadata, that's what it was just metadata. not phone calls or content. was done by european intelligence services not by the nsa. and that in fact it was nof of citizens of those countries, france and spain, but collected from a number of sources by the u.s. and nato allies in support of military operations abroad. here's how they made that case at the hearings today. >> assertions by reporters in france, lemond, spain, el mundo, italy espresso that new york sa collected millions of phone calls are completely false. to be perfectly clear, this is not information that we collected on european citizens. it represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our countries and in support of military operations. >> so in effect they're saying there that one of the strongest reasons for this anger we've been seeing from europe started with nothing, the misinterpretation, erin, of a single powerpoint slide. >> well, we shall see. of course that was the tip of the iceberg. thanks so much to you, jim. >>> re

according to the washington post, the agency has processed millions of records ranging from metadata such as audio and video. the text sites those from edward snowden. >>> people driving on the san mateo bridge might see some unusual work going on with the transmission lines running next to the bridge. pg&e linemen are hanging from helicopters as they replace the high-capacity electric lines that cross the bay. it's called long lining. that was going on this morning on one of the towers at the west side of the bridge nearest foster city. >> this is actually practice -- this is a practice that pg&e pioneered. we were the first to use long lining and have used it for a number of years. it's the most effective way to replace transition lines in conditions like this. >> the work is part of a $10 million project scheduled to wrap up by the end of the year. >>> state lawmakers are considering several proposals to crack down on told-vadders. this comes as an estimated 1 million cars pass through the booths without paying each year. they say the most common tactic is the use of paper plates

. >> woodruff: i'm sure as you know they are collecting what they call metadata. the fact that phone calls took place, the phone numbers, the duration of the call, the accumulation of e-mails but they say they're not listening and reading unless they have a reason to do so. >> well, so what? the fact that the calls took place and they get trillions of these calls makes the haystack so big they can't find the needle in it. and even though sashg brothers in the u.s. legally, when the russians told us they were bad guys they weren't able to track down who they were zeroing in on before the boston marathon bombing. look there has to be a balance between privacy and security the n.s.a. and their supporters in the congress have said let's forget about privacy and civil liberties, let's forget about the first and forth amendments. i can't do that because i think what's made america a different country is our respect for these types of issues and certainly what the n.s.a. has been doing is a lack of oversight and it's destroyed trust with our allies, particularly those in

data center under construction is built to store everything the nsa is collecting, which includes metadata and 75% of all internet communication in the u.s. -- is experiencing technical problems. since august at least 10 electrical surges have led 10 components to melt. each meltdown has led to 100,000 dollars in damages. in order to retain the amount they are interested in, this contains 65 megawatts of electricity. that works out to an electricity bill of $1 million. it is believed they are able to cool them at the same time, but the army corps of engineers says it is unaware of what is causing the surges. some of the biggest critics in congress gathered here in washington, d.c., to discuss the legal, economic, technological, and journalistic consequences of the spying habits. we broke down what was discussed, and one of the characters is the senator, who has been speaking about these nsa secrets for a while, and now they have been exposed. i asked if he had anything to say about it. >> he had a lot to say about it. he has received a lot of pushback from several people who did not agree

we have shown more than a mere collection of metadata. we have shown all sorts of invasions into the content of communications between nsa people having conversations online, the collection of their browsing history. the idea that terrorists did not know, excuse me, that the united states and u.k. governments were trying to monitor their communications is laughable. terroristevery capable of tying their own shoes have long known the u.k. and u.s. governments are trying to monitor communications. the only thing we have informed people love is this -- of is that this is targeted at them. >> do you think that the majority of people might actually feel quite safe? shock thatit is a government officials lied to the face of journalist who do not seem to mind very much. in the segment you just played, you had people defending the gc hq on the grounds that this is only about terrorist's and pedophiles. yet, we have reported the gc hq and nsa are signing on petrobras. are there terrorists and petrobras customer they are spying on the organization

i personally don't think the correction of what they call metadata, which is like every phone call, you know, is not overheard. that seems to me to be going on what his message very. if they have a bad guy, they can go to the foreign intelligence surveillance court and put on for a warrant and they'll get a warrant in almost every case. to wiretap that person. they don't need to know that i was talking to my brother or my and, you know, on the phone and i call that person. that's pretty suspicious. that seems to me, if they suspect to you or they suspect me, they can get a warrant and wiretap my phone. .. >> the fbi is a tremendous partner in the homeland where they do great work. we gather the information that we see coming from overseas into the united states. so the nsa has foreign intelligence capabilities and to help people really understand exactly what that means. the fbi are pretty busy people. they have a lot of stuff going on. it helps them and it helps us. >> guest: as i said a moment ago, the idea that they are going to help the fbi by logging every phone call made by every

was sharing all of its metadata collection and other information with the israeli intelligence services on redacted but i go back i grant i think we agree then this is a at least a a sharp dagger into the neo con theory of of the world in international relations where we are we are by jowl with israelis we do everything they ask us to do that's a cornerstone of the neo con thinking and i think that is crumbling and i think that's a very important turning point in the united states foreign policy i agree with that grand isle is crumbling because the revelation in that memo was that the united states had passed on redacted ra and this a intelligence to the israelis you know a couple of months after obama was entering office so here he is entering office with his team freeing a couple of the lobbies people who had been accused of espionage and giving a way to the intelligence on the american people this is unforgivable it's something that americans should be uproar over but it's still in place as far as i know so i you know i just don't see this week in the other than again the popular upr

received so much attention over the summer is what is called the bulk metadata collection program under section 215 of the patriot act. this is basically the concern that the government is obtaining from phone companies all of our metadata, basically noncontent information about our phone calls, without a warrant, without individualized position, etc. that whole program is at least arguably justified by an amendment to fisa congress enacted as part of the usa patriot act in 2001, the so- called business record provision third one piece of this and the scope of the business record position and the oversight of the business records provision and how well or not well that has worked. another program that we heard about early on is the prism program, which is we assume carried out under the auspices of section 702 of fisa, which was created in 2008 as part of the fisa a memo that. there will be a quiz, so be ready. and the idea behind section 702 was to look at a different set of intelligence information, to look at information involving noncitizens, outside the united states, who i suspect

citizens and then we have you know we're collecting data but it's only the metadata don't worry about it guys go back to do whatever you do before car dash in kanye west or together disco focus on that stuff and then it comes out that oh they're actually harvesting hundreds of thousands in a single day hundreds of thousands of people's address book contacts people who have no connection to terrorism or crime and by the way people who are u.s. citizens. reporting on the war in syria is becoming too dangerous for manning with attacks on journalists forcing more and more to avoid the country a team from sky news or a beer when missing on thursday and that followed dozens of other abductions at least twenty five journalists have been killed since the start of the conflict there were the last artie's marie international mannish to make it into one rebel held city but tell you have next to the syrian lebanese border is just eighty kilometers from the capital damascus but it is like a state within a state that has its own security forces and police and even the army can seize symbols of new

what bothers me is collecting metadata on american citizens. we have a fourth amendment that should put a stop to that. they are not adhering to the constitution. it is pretty telling that obama --host: you broke up there. caller: it is pretty telling that obama does not know anything that is going on in his federal government. he did not know anything about the irs, he had no idea that the -- ite wasn't going to work host: we are having a hard time hearing you. "the new york times" editorial board weighs in -- the editorial board goes on to say this -- an endorsement from "the new york times" on that legislation. we want to get your thoughts on what should congress do about these nsa spying programs. should they endorse them, codified them, or should government shutdown the echo we are going to go to travis in louisiana, an independent caller. i think it is ridiculous that snowden knew we were spying on merkel that obama did not know. the -- hecked it was was the executive of the government. for him not to know anything that is going on in thi