>> the joke was horrible. >> george zimmerman. george zimmerman who? all right, good, you're on the jury. >> nobody got it. i didn't get it until later. then i thought about it, and i'm like, i guess that could have been funny. but not in the context he told it. >> was there a particular witness that stands out to you? who did you find to be the most credible? >> the doctor -- i don't know his name. >> the doctor for the defense? >> yes. >> what about him? >> i thought he was awe-inspiring. the experiences he had had over in the war, and i just never thought of anybody that could recognize somebody's voice yelling in like a terrible terror voice when he was just previously half hour ago playing cards with them. >> that is george zimmerman. >> a lot of analysts watching the trial felt that the defense attorneys, marks o'mara, don west, were able to turn prosecution witnesses to their advantage. chris serino, the lead investigator for example, did he make an impression on you? >> chris serino did. but to me he just was doing his job. he was doing his job

we know that trayvon was scared of george zimmerman. george talks when trayvon walked past his truck, he put his hand in what he was wearing, because he was trying to intimidate george, but trayvon was moving away from him, when they finally met behind the townhouses, trayvon said hey, why are you following me? trayvon was not the aggressor here. and it's important, because george zimmerman could have done something to stop this incident. george had been following the instruction of the dispatcher and stayed in his vehicle, this never would have happened. >> mr. parks, in the state of florida, the prosecution has the burden to prove it was unreasonable self-defense. george zimmerman didn't have a reasonable fear of death or bodily injury, that he could die that night. george zimmerman says he did have that fear, he had physical injuries, broken nose, cuts, lacerations to the back of the head. consistent with his statement that trayvon martin on top of him. at what point does he he lose his right, ability to defend himself? he doesn't hav

we know that trayvon was scared of george zimmerman. george talks when trayvon walked past his truck, he put his hand in what he was wearing, because he was trying to intimidate george, but trayvon was moving away from him, when they finally met behind the townhouses, trayvon said hey, why are you following me? trayvon was not the aggressor here. and it's important, because george zimmerman could have done something to stop this incident. george had been following the instruction of the dispatcher and stayed in his vehicle, this never would have happened. >> mr. parks, in the state of florida, the prosecution has the burden to prove it was unreasonable self-defense. george zimmerman didn't have a reasonable fear of death or bodily injury, that he could die that night. george zimmerman says he did have that fear, he had physical injuries, broken nose, cuts, lacerations to the back of the head. consistent with his statement that trayvon martin on top of him. at what point does he he lose his right, ability to defend himself? he doesn't hav

number one george zimmerman had a broken nose. ons to his fist other than the bullet wound which would indicate that he struck zimmerman in the nose initiating the contact and the second thing was a stopwatch. omara did something that looked foolish to many people during his summation. he hit a stopwatch and let it go for four minutes and said that's how much time passed that trayvon martin had to get back to his father's house which was only a 30 second walk indicating that trayvon martin circled back and jumped george zimmerman and i think in the end because of those two things prosecutors failed to meet their burden of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. >> let me bring you in here. paul i haven't done it to you as much but you're been a mentor to me for years and understand where my head is. i was challenged to take the prosecutions side of the analysis. so many legal minds were saying i don't see this case. i don't get where this is going to go with all due respect to the prosecutors. but my twitter feed and social media

that george zimmerman was lucky.would say what comes to her mind, murderer. i can understand that. >> i don't understand that. she's a prosecutor. she's got a certain -- supposed to have some ethics, which obviously she doesn't. supposed to be competent. you heard the juror say they played over and over the reenactment by george zimmerman. jeff, i think she will back me up but for these incompetent prosecutors putting it in there. >> big mistake by the prosecutors to put all those tapes in. they thought, oh, they'll show all these inconsistencies. >> they rewatched that. >> i agreed with her on that. >> that does it for this special edition of "360." join us tomorrow night. we'll have more of my interview with job b-37. also 10:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow, a special edition "race and justice in america," it an "ac360" town hall. you don't want to miss it, tomorrow night 10:00 eastern right here on cnn. [ female announcer ] last day, deb. checking out of the hilton shouldn't be a pity party. your next trip is calling. sa

you certainly are. [ male announcer ] fiber one. >>> the george zimmerman case is now in the hands of jury. earlier judge deborah nelson read 27 pages of jury instructions. the jury has three basic options. not guilty, manslaughter, or second-degree murder. zimmerman, of course, has pleaded not guilty, claiming self-defense. the jury has been instructed to presume he's innocent unless it's been overcome beyond a reasonable doubt. as the instructions read, it is to the evidence introduced in this trial and to that alone that you are to look for that proof. here's a sample of what the judge told the jurors. >> if you decide that the main accusation has not been proved beyond a reasonable doubt, you'll next need to decide if george zimmerman is guilty of any lesser included crime. to prove the crime of manslaughter, the state must prove the following two elements beyond a reasonable doubt. one, trayvon martin is dead. two, george zimmerman intentionally committed an act or acts that caused the death of trayvon martin. in order to convict of manslaughter by act, it is not necessary for th

>> george. >> all right, george, what's your last name? >> zimmerman. >> and george, what's the phone number you're calling from? >> 407-435-2400. >> all right, george, we have them on the way, do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there? >> yeah. >> all right, where are you going to be? >> there's a -- as you come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse. and then straight past the clubhouse and then make a left and then you go past the mailboxes, there's my truck. >> what address are you parked in front of? >> i don't know. it's a cut through, so i don't know the address. >> okay, do you live in the area? >> yeah. >> what's your apartment number? >> it's a home. it's 1950. oh, crap, i don't want to give it out. >> do you want to meet with them right by the mailboxes then? >> yeah, that's fine. >> all right, george, i'll let you know when they're out there. >> could you have them call me and i'll tell them where i'm at? >> yes, no problem. >> do you want my number? >> yeah, i got it. >> i'll let them know to ca

>> george zimmerman's friend, mark osterman testified that george zimmerman told him that trayvon martin straddled zimmerman by his arm pits. de la rionda used a mannequin, once again, using the mannequin to show the jury once again what it would look like. >> he is showing the arm pits, how did he get the gun out? arm pits, how does he get the gun out? >> a few months after the incident, george zimmerman told sean hannity that he had no regrets about what happened that night. but today, he must have had regrets about talking to sean hannity. >> i feel like it was all god's plan, and for me to second guess it or judge it. >> is there anything you might do differently in retrospect, after time has passed? >> no, sir. >> i don't know whether i need to comment about that. it speaks for itself. >> joining me now, msnbc legal analyst, lisa bloom, former criminal prosecutor, faith jenkins and former prosecutor marcia clark, who is also the author of the new novel, "killer ambition." they want to lodge at least one central question at least in the jury's mind that leads to the answer of guilty.

i am glad the jury saw it that way. >> and this is really not the end for george zimmerman as we havelking about this on the panel the last hour. there could be other charges against zimmerman? >> yes, that is absolutely right. there has been a request by the naacp that there be an investigation into the possibility of civil rights violation, the breaking of civil rights, trayvon martin, due to george zimmerman's actions. the department of justice says they have been investigating and will continue to look into that. and they want people to be sure that they're looking into that, that is ongoing. meanwhile, president obama has weighed in. remember, he spoke just weeks after this incident. and the latest statement coming from the president goes like this. and he says the death of trayvon martin was a tragedy, not just for his family or for any one community but for america. and i now ask everybody to respect the call for calm reflection for two parents who lost their son, the president of the united states. >> all right, thank you, march since. cnn legal analyst and former federal pros

. >> george zimmerman who?a number of negative personal items about trayvon martin. >> for a year the defense team desperately wanted the jury to see what it called 17-year-old trayvon martin's checkered past. like the three school suspensions including one for having been caught with traces of pot. and another for allegedly having burglary tools in his backpack. there's in video martin shot himself, the only available sample of his voice laughing as foolishness played out. then are these photos from his cell phone, him giving the finger, marijuana plant, blowing smoke. the only reason to introduce that picture would have been to smear trayvon martin. that's not what this case is about. >> what's the most important piece of evidence they didn't hear? >> i think they had the right to hear about trayvon martin's past. >> zimmerman's defense attorney mark o'mara is talking about tex messages in which martin posts he could knock a man down with a single punch. i lost the first round but won the second and third. i'

to telephone that george zimmerman exercised restrainting, he was not allowed to testify that george zimmerman violated any of the laws of state of florida. we were expecting his testimony would not take that long. once again, we were wrong. again, he ended up testifying for about four hours. ultimately, basically saying the story provided to him by george zimmerman was consistent, consistent with the nchkinforma and photos provided. information and photos provided were by mark o'mara and the defense team. >> we've had this description by two witnesses for the defense of george zimmerman, as i said, being an unfit individual. and then at the same time, there was this implication or indeed strong suggestion that they had an assessment of trayvon martin's fitness, even though they knew nothing about his physical health. they had not actually met the young man. yet they were painting him as this superfit, young black athlete. >> well, the expert witness today was definitely, and that was interesting. he had to answer questions from the prosecutor on cross-examination about that. you did

so that would have implied that trayvon had followed george zimm zimmerman back up. if george zimmer marine had not walked down there, then trayvon walked back down to the t. most of the witnesses according to the noiszs went the other direction. but the majority of them had the noise coming from the top of the town to the trunk where john good saw him laying on the ground and trayvon on top of george zimmerman. and i believe that john good said that i believed this it was zimmerman because he had the color jacket that he had. and so tying all those together, and the injuries that george zimmerman had, that's where i came to my conclusion that it was justifiable. >> b37 criticized zimmerman for not going back to his car, what do you have to say about that? >> you know, there's -- i was fine with that. he was -- i think at the time, he was trying to keep an observation and communicate to the police and was not being confrontational. he had the right to be where he was and, you know, i don't have -- i don't think he had to go back to his car. >> when you heard the verdi

that the jury saw it that way. >> and certainly this is not -- this is really not the end for george zimmerman, as we've been talking about on this panel the last hour. there could be other charges against zimmerman. >> that's absolutely right, yeah. there has been a request by the naacp that there be an investigation into the possibility of the civil rights violations of breaking of civil rights, trayvon martin's civil rights as a result of george zimmerman's actions. department of justice says they have been investigating, will continue to look at that, and they want to make sure that people were aware their investigation began before the naacp has asked. so that is ongoing. meanwhile, the president of the united states, he has -- president barack obama has weighed in. remember, the president spoke just weeks after this incident. latest statement coming from the president goes like this. he says that the death of trayvon martin was a tragedy, not just for his family or for any one community but for america. i now ask every american to respect the call for calm reflection from two parents who

and that was the statement that rang true for everyone. >> what is next for george zimmerman? he is a free man and just hours ago an all female jury found zimmerman not guilty in the shooting death of trayvon martin. zimmerman has been in the spotlight since trayvon's death, this is the moment, just hours ago when the judge released zimmerman, how will he resume life after all the drama of the last 18 months? well his wife wept in court and one of the attorneys said zimmerman wishes he could get his life back. the trial has changed zimmerman's life forever. next our legal team, our legal experts weigh in tonight on the verdict. also this hour, an exclusive interview with the brother of george zimmerman, his reaction to the verdict that set his free. hmm...fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. yep, everybody knows that. well, did you know some owls aren't that wise? don't forget i'm having brunch with meghan tomorrow. who? meghan, my coworker. who? seriously? you've met her like three times. who? (sighs) geico. fifteen minutes could save you...

with which george zimmerman is charged, was committed, and george zimmerman is the person who committed the crime. george zimmerman is not required to present evidence or prove anything. whenever the words reasonable doubt are used, you must consider the following. a reasonable doubt is not a mere possible doubt, a speculative, imaginary, or forced doubt. such a doubt should not influence you to return a verdict of not guilty if you have an abiding conviction of guilt. on the other hand, if after carefully considering, comparing, and weighing all of the evidence, there is not an abiding conviction of guilt or if having a conviction it is one which is not stable but one which waivers and vacillates, then the charge is not proved beyond every reasonable doubt, and you must find george zimmerman not guilty because the doubt is reasonable. it is to the evidence introduced in this trial and to it alone that you are to look for that proof. a reasonable doubt as to the guilt of george zimmerman may arise from the evidence, conflict in the evidence, or lack of the evidence. if you have a reason

>> the joke was horrible. >> george zimmerman. george zimmerman who? all right, good, you're on the jury. >> nobody got it. i didn't get it, until later, when i thought about it, and i'm like, i guess that could have been funny, but not in the context he told it. >> was there a particular witness that stands out to you? who did you find to be the most credible? >> the doctor, and i didn't know his name. >> the doctor the defense called? >> yes. >> what about him? >> i thought he was awe inspiring. the experiences that he had had over in the war, and i just never thought of anybody that could recognize somebody's voice yelling, in like a terrible terror voice, when he was just previously a half hour ago playing cards with him. >> that is george zimmerman. >> a lot of analysts who were watching the trial felt that the defense attorneys, mark o'mara and don west were able to turn prosecution witnesses to their advantage. chris advisory serino, for instance, the lead investigator, did he make an impression on you? >> chris serino did, but to me, he was jus

that little girl is george zimmerman's mother. quares with what zimmerman's cousin told police in that audio recording. >> i was afraid that he was going to -- [ inaudible ] because he was black. because growing up, they've always -- him and his family have always made statements that they don't like black people if they don't act like white people. >> reporter: but his immediate family has always stayed on message. >> when this is all over, they hope people will conclude that george zimmerman is a nice guy. his father likes to point out george grew up in a close family with one brother and one sister raised in a religious catholic home. he was an altar boy for seven or eight years. the priests thought so much of him, he gave him his first job in the rectory. that's the george zimmerman his family wants the world to know. in terms of his some's injuries, his father described hem for the court, by phone. >> his face was swollen quite a bit. he had a protective cut over his nose. his lip was swollen and cut, and there were two vertic

he found no trace of george zimmerman's dna on that sweatshirt, not even on the sleeves or cuffs nearest to the fifties the defendant says trayvon martin was hitting him with, and no zimmerman dna was found under martin's fingernails and what with about martin's dna? was it found on the gun which, by one zimmerman account, the teen actually reached for and touched. >> swabbed or the dna that you developed from the pistol grip of the defendant's gun was positive for blood, correct? >> yes. >> and then there was a mixture. the major was matched the defendant george zimmerman. >> yes. >> and you were able to exclude trayvon martin as having dna on the pistol grip, is that correct? >> yes. trayvon martin was excluded to being a possible contributor to this mix out grip. >> the hoodie was also tested by a firearms expert who said zimmerman's gun was actually touching the fabric when he fired the fatal shot. >> what did you find distance wise when you conducted the test with this particular sweatshirt? >> this as well was consistent with residues and physical effects of a contact shot. >> so a

>> well, for the defense, it's all about corroborating george zimmerman's story. and we understand that the truck was not secured by law enforcement. it may have been moved, and therefore, where the truck ended up may not have been where zimmerman parked it. again, depending on who you believe in this case. so the defense is just using this witness to get this little piece of information. >> lisa bloom, thank you very much. the prosecution is now cross examining elloise dilligard. we're going to take a brief break. much more from the trial of george zimmerman when we come back. really just need "kid-pro" softsprings got both, let me show you. right over here. here, feel this. wow, that's nice. wow. the soft carpets have never been this durable. you know i think we'll take it. get kid-friendly toughness and feet-friendly softness, without walking all over your budget. he didn't tell us it would do this. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now, get whole-home installation for just 37 bucks. wi drive a ford fusion. who is healthier, you

punched george zimmerman in the face.an thinking that he was dealing with a criminal, then acted in self defense to defend himself from what he thought was a deadly threat. there was, you know, there was fault on both sides but unfortunately, a 17-year-old is dead, and why? because there was a gun in the picture. what i take away from last night. every african-american that i have spoken to, sees their own children in trayvon martin. and says is, in america today, do we have to worry when our kid goes out that he will be shot? because someone thinks he is a burglar? and i know, if this case, i tried cases like this in new york, as a prosecutor. and we used to call it, if you bring a gun to a fight and you kill somebody, you will get convictimed of manslaughter, and there will not ab prosecutor holding a press conference as they did earlier this evening saying we support the right to bare arms. this is not about the right to bare arms. you never hear that in new york then talking about that. they do not believe in arms of

with which george zimmerman has charged was committed and george zimmerman is the person who committed the crime. george zimmerman is not required to present evidence or prove anything. whenever the words reasonable doubt are used, you must consider the following. a reasonable doubt is not a mere possible doubt, a speculative, imaginary or forced doubt. such a doubt should not influence you to return a verdict of not guilty if you have an abiding conviction of guilt. on the other hand, if after carefully considering, comparing and weighing all of the evidence there is not an abiding conviction of guilt or if having a conviction, it is one which is not stable, but one which wavers and vase lacillates, then the ce is not proved beyond a reasonable doubt and you must find george zimmerman not guilty because the doubt is reasonable. it is to the evidence introduced in this trial and it alone that you are to look to that proof. a reasonable doubt as to the guilt of george zimmerman may arise from the evidence, conflict in the evidence, or the lack of evidence. if you have a reasonable doubt

no matter their race. >> his father has tried to dispel rumors that george zimmerman is a racist who racially profiled trayvon martin the night he shot him. in a book he wrote about the case, he wrote "many of george's closest most trusted friends are african-american" adding "there's a tremendous amount of evidence that george is absolutely not a racist in any sense of the word." in an effort to prove that zimmerman himself has african-american roots the family released this photo exclusively to a cnn legal analyst showing zimmerman's grandmother who is half black and his grandfather. the girl on the lap is george zimmerman's mother. but none of that squares with what his cousin said in police in the audio recording. >> i was afraid he may have done something because the kid was black. because growing up they have always made -- him and his family have always made statements that they don't like black people if they don't act like white people. >> his immediate family has always stayed on message. >> when this over, they hope people will conclude that george zimmerman is a nice guy.

she wanted to give evan absolute out of being guilty. >> you were sure of george zimmerman's voice? >> i was sure. >> and everyone else in the jury was? >> i think so. i think they were. i don't think there was a doubt. that everybody else thought it was george's voice. >> i want to ask you about some of the different witnesses. rachel, the woman on the phone with trayvon martin at the start of the incident. what did you make of her testimony? >> i didn't think it was credible, but i felt sorry for her. she didn't ask to be in this place? she wanted to go. she didn't want to be any part of this case. i think she felt inadequate toward everyone because of her education and her communication skills. i just felt sadness for her. >> you felt like what, she was in over her head? >> not over her head, she just didn't want to be there, and she was embarrassed by being there, because of her education and her communication skills, that she just wasn't a good witness. >> did you find it hard at dimes to understand what she was saying? >> a lot of the time. because a lot of the time she was usi

george zimmerman. george zimmerman who? all right. good. you're on the jury. nothing?t's funny. >> a lot of people didn't find it funny, and defense attorney don west ended up apologizing later. other key moments, testimony from neighbors who witnessed part of the fight and called 911. we heard screaming in the background and the gunshot that ended trayvon martin's life. >> i can't see him. i don't want to go out there. i don't know what's going on. >> so you think he's yelling help? >> yes. >> all right. what is your -- [ gunshot ] >> there's gunshots. >> there's two guys in backyard with flashlights. >> okay. >> and there's a black guy down. it looks like he's been shot and he's dead. >> okay. >> he's laying and there's multiple people calling right now i'm thinking. >> and, of course, the star witness for the prosecution, rachel jeantel, trayvon martin's friend, who was defiant and later criticized for her attitude in court. we want to warn you, some of the language you're about to hear may be offensive. >> describe iing the person is t made you think it was racial?

>> so it's your opinion that it was george zimmerman screaming for help? >> absolutely, yes. >> do you have an opinion as to whose voice that is? >> i thought it was george. >> can you identify whose voice that was yelling in the background? >> george's. >> how do you know that? >> i recognized his voice. >> msnbc's craig melvin joins us live from the courthouse. what can tell you us about the docket for the rest of today? >> the witness on the stand, leeann benjamin just testified on the stand that she and her husband at one point donated to the website also took food to he and his wife, also bought clothes for the trial and encouraged him to go back to college in general. what's been most interesting today, thomas, and you just alluded to it. every witness who's been put on the stand so far sondra and mark osterman and now leeanne benjamin, he's played that 911 tape for every witness today. he's also played that 911 tape, he played it for the two witnesses on friday as well. so far every witness that the defense has called has heard that tape and they hav

do you know george zimmerman? >> yes, i do. >> and if you would, tell the jury how long you have known him. >> i think i met george nor the first time either at the end of 2002 or early in 2003. >> and if you would briefly tell the jury the circumstances of. i own and operate a local real estate business and george was working for the local evens company and i used to refer my commerce over to him, so i got to know him that way. >> would a characterization as a business friendship be? >> yes, it started out as a business relationship. >> have you maintained a friendship sort of continuously back in 2002? >> yes. >> if you would, tell the jury the high points of that. how it happened, how it progressed. i'm sorry, do you know shelly zimmerman as well? >> yes, i do. when i have you talk to the juriant your relationship, is it one that grew with you and your husband and george zimmerman and his wife? >> yes. >> okay. >> so as you are going through this, are you talking about the relationship that grew between the four

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in a moment, i'll speak to mark o'mara, a day in which witness after witness testified george zimmerman is the man heard screaming on the tape, not trayvon martin. >> you said you heard the tape several times, is that mainly listening to it on tv? >> yes. >> were you able to identify mr. zimmerman's voice during the first time you listened to it? yes, my immediate reaction to it was, that is george's voice. >> that's georgy. >> it's george zimmerman, and i wish to god i did not have the ability to recognize that. >> i pushed away from the table and shook my head and said, i can't tell. >> and the judge rules the jury will hear about trayvon martin's alleged pot use. joining us to talk about a busy day in court, mark o'mara. mark, busy day. pretty important day in many ways. how significant is this late breaking decision to allow trayvon martin's toxicology report including his cannibis use to be made available to the court? >> good evening, piers, it's good to chat with you again. we thought this day was coming, the judge had initially said we could not present that evidence until we we

sir. >> and then when you saw it, after hearing it, you saw it, there was something on about george zimmerman case right on the news itself when you saw it? correct? >> before -- before i saw what i saw, i heard the scream. >> right. >> and that's when i got up and said, that is george. what are you watching? >> right. and then when you saw the tv, it did have the name george zimmerman on there, correct? >> that is correct. >> okay. and i believe you stated that you had heard him playing before with your son? >> yes. >> but you never heard george zimmerman crying out for help, had you? >> not the way i did that way. >> okay. thank you very much, sir. >> any redirect? >> briefly on some of the issues addressed. obviously you're not here as a deputy. do you take your oath to tell the truth seriously? >> i took my oath on 31 may 2000 and up to this day i stand for my oath to the law of the state of florida. >> so you would not color your testimony to favor your nephew, would you? >> george zimmerman's uncle testifying on the stand. i want to ask lisa bloom, lisa, how credible is he when he says

she wanted to give evan absolute out of being guilty. >> you were sure of george zimmerman's voice? >> i was sure. >> and everyone else in the jury was? >> i think so. i think they were. i don't think there was a doubt. that everybody else thought it was george's voice. >> i want to ask you about some of the different witnesses. rachel, the woman on the phone with trayvon martin at the start of the incident. what did you make of her testimony? >> i didn't think it was credible, but i felt sorry for her. she didn't ask to be in this place? she wanted to go. she didn't want to be any part of this case. i think she felt inadequate toward everyone because of her education and her communication skills. i just felt sadness for her. >> you felt like what, she was in over her head? >> not over her head, she just didn't want to be there, and she was embarrassed by being there, because of her education and her communication skills, that she just wasn't a good witness. >> did you find it hard at dimes to understand what she was saying? >> a lot of the time. because a lot of the time she was usi

that's exactly what happened. >> and you have no -- do you have any doubt that george zimmerman fearedhis life? >> i had no doubt george feared for his life in the situation he was in at the time. >> she said she had no doubt at all. coming up, more of our exclusive interview. juror b-37 talking about whether she feels sorry for trayvon martin and the overall confrontation that took his life. >> it's a tragedy this happened, but it happened. i think both were responsible for the situation they had gotten themselves in to, i think both of them could have walked away. anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. live the regular life. phillips'. live the regular life. we know it's your videoconference of the day. hi! hi, buddy! that's why the free wifi and hot breakfast are something to smile about. book a great getaway now and feel the hamptonality i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will

inflicting some injuries on george zimmerman, may have been exaggerated. but it looks like zimmerman, up until the shot was fired, had more injuries than trayvon martin. >> but faith, one of the things it is going to come down to was george zimmerman really in a life-threatening situation? life-threatening to him? and dr. rao's testimony was the injuries that he suffered were certainly not life-threatening and she used that phrase. that seems to be where the prosecution -- that is the point they will emphasize in final argument. >> right, because we know there was some contact there. george zimmerman does have some injuries, but just because you get into a fist fight that doesn't mean you get to then turn around and shoot and kill the other person. and so that is what the prosecutors are arguing about. based on everything we know about george zimmerman, what he said about trayvon martin. his view of him as suspicious, his view of him as a suspect. he was a person who was inclined to overreact, and that is what he did by shooting and killing him. that will b

for better or worse, george zimmerman had a gun. that's a separate debate. but in light of the fact i think the jurors found that mr. zimmerman had a reasonable fear for his life. he took out his gun and tragically, tragically shot mr. martin, but what the jurors did, i think, is they separated that tragedy and their emotion from mr. zimmerman's state of mind. arfel, this was never a who done it. we all know that george zimmerman killed trayvon martin, but at the end of the day it came down to what mr. zimmerman's state of mind was, and the jurors found out that he had an innocent state of mind in the sense that he wasn't acting with a depraved heart and he was acting reasonably. >> and, matt through -- >> of course, their view -- i'm sorry. >> no. finish your thought. i apologize. >> i was simply going to say, and then you layer on the element, the critical component of reasonable doubt, and i think that's how the jurors got to where they were, got to where they got. you know, one of our most famous judges, lerned hand, this is a cliche, and i hate cliches,

mind was john menola one of those neighbors who come out there and he takes george zimmerman's cell s call my wife. as he's attempting to explain to shelly zimmerman what happened, he said, look, there's been a shooting and george interrupts him and says just tell her i shot someone. and for the prosecution that is an excellent peek into george zimmerman's mindset. he's cold. he's disconnected. he doesn't care, ah, just tell her i shot somebody. on the reverse and i'm going to respectfully disagree with paul callan, one of those scream witnesses that the defense called was a medic in vietnam, and he has a skill set that probably nobody else in the world has. he says i know what it's like to listen to my buddies speak in a normal voice and then i know what it's like to hear that same person screaming for their life, screaming in terror, screaming in pain. and so i think he brought a little bit of credibility that nobody else could. because who else has experienced that. and he listened to the tape and he said to me that's george zimmerman, and if you believe him, john, if you believe

that it was george zimmerman?yes. >> so you would have voted not guilty? >> correct. >> what did you think of b-37, the juror who spoke out? did you see that interview? >> i did, yeah. i was surprised that anybody could come out that quickly and talk about this. i'm not surprised that it was her. i just think it's a little too soon. >> and what's your reaction to all the protests, demonstrations and the talk of a civil rights complaint now? >> i just don't understand the civil rights complaint. i didn't see the evidence there in the courtroom that would make anybody believe that there was a civil rights case for this. the protests, the people are going to be angry no matter what the verdict was. and there's nothing we can do about that. i just hope that they're peaceful. and that they just do it as calmly and as best as they can. and there's no destruction and not hatred and not a lot of anger towards the jurors. >> i know ctive, we talked abou some of the key witnesses, whether it be john good or rachel genteel,

and he wrote a book about the case. >> you wrote a book where you quoted what the defendant, george zimmerman, told you, correct? >> correct. >> and you recall in that book writing, do you have a problem with that, that's what he said trayvon martin said? >> right. correct. >> reporter: in that book, he says zimmerman said martin tried to reach for the weapon on his hip, actually touching the gun. >> the defendant is claiming that the victim actually grabbed the gun, grabbed the -- >> that was my understanding, that he grabbed the gun. >> reporter: but a latent print technician found no trace of martin's prints but conceded rain could have washed it away. >> so fingerprints may have exited on an item that you have lift a latent from and there be no latents whatsoever, correct? >> correct. >> even though it's been handled by two or three people? >> that's correct. >> reporter: osterman wrote that zimmerman held down his hands, fearing he might be still be a threat, but the teen's hands were underneath his body. >> you call that being underneath his body? >> yes, sir. >> could someone say that

i don't know that i would have advertised that i trained george zimmerman for a year and he went from a 0.5 to a 1, but he did. so this mma, you know, george, i think he said it was 18 months, that geologist is mma training, grr. really? c'mon. really? in light of the testimony of the trainer who said i wouldn't even let him do anything but shadow box for fear the shadow might win? and hit a bag. tracy martin we talked about. he was there for the whole part of it, but most importantly he was the officer who said, whatever you do, separate them, don't infect witness testimony with other witness testimony, it is cop 101. i understand the sensitivities, listensing to the possible voice of their son and definitely the gunshot that endened their son's life, but law enforcement, ongoing investigation, put them in one at a time. the way it was handled infected the evaluation of that testimony horrib horribly. and who gets the benefit of that? george zimmerman. vincent dimaio, a grandfather, he's done this his whole life. he gave really good information on everything having to do with gunshot