dianne feinstein just confirming that the u.s.ng on angela merkel's phone calls since 2002. that, she says, is a big problem. nick, first to you. do you support this program, this nsa program that's been going on now apparently for years of spying on friendly allies? >> i think the basic problem has been that there's been no adult supervision. i think that too often, people have been spying because they could, because they had the technical means and there wasn't somebody saying look, what will we actually gain from this, and what are the risks if it's disclosed. the truth is that at some point, there are real risks of disclosure. so it's kind of the classic foreign policy dilemma that you have very modest tactical benefits and a huge strategic risk. that has now blown up in our faces. >> bill? >> i would say if you're going to eavesdrop on phone calls of the german chancellor, that has to be something that the president of the united states authorizes and thinks frankly is worth the risk of exposure, as nick says. you can't just

feinstein also said the administration assured her surveillance would not continue,

. >> the chair of the senate intelligence committee dianne feinstein been a lawyer defender of the nsa broken ranks with the agency and now calling for a full review of all of their surveillance programs. she quote, totally opposed to spying on u.s. allies and adds congress has not been kept in the loop. feinstein's counterpart, republican susan collins agrees in a statement she says, she notes there's no justification for collecting intel on leaders of our closest allies and said she will meet with the german ambassador tonight to say she is opposed to the phone tapping. we begin with capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. the hearing is in a break but

playing out because it's very interesting i see people in congress scrambling about this dianne feinstein is all over the place it's really almost surreal i mean she on the one hand says she's really against the surveillance of foreign leaders but on the other hand she wants the cot if i input into law a lot of these illegal practices i mean this is schizophrenia when it comes to the national security state. i think this is a matter of survival of the united states because we are about to lose our allies and a very accurate analysis coming out of the defense department shows that we are about to lose germany as an ally this is a matter of national security whatever the people think that they are doing on behalf of the american people they absolutely are not when you look at what american opinion is seventy five percent of the american people want to work together with our allies they don't want to be a go it alone nation in foreign affairs this is absolutely abysmal and what you have to fault is the american press because they are not telling the american public what's going on and specif

we know behind the scenes that feinstein's office sent thatfict story to lannier's staff and said ha ha that's what we werewr able to do.able todo. >> let's put up the response. chief lannier says mpd responded to a request of congress. mpd made every effort to avoidod any of the politicallitica implications surrounding this request. equest additional mpd took extensivextv efforts to make sure no lawso ls were broken and none were. wre. we're going to leave it with wit that at this time.hat ate. we'll have more from emily miller on the late news at 10. thank you for joining us.ou fng >> thanks for having me. >> thanks, will. wll >>> lawmakers in maryland and md d.c. today took the wraps off aa plan to create a regional minimum wage for the district and its suburbs.surbs. we're going to go down to john harrahan in the news room.om. >> reporter: academics say when you account forac inflation, the federal minimum wage is lesssles than what it was in 1968.96. democrats in d.c. and princed pe george's county and montgomeryny counties, they want to hike thee local minimum wage but because

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do endorse dianne feinstein's idea?sst: there is nothing we do a federal government that shouldn't be subject to review and analysis. z review is fine. it is part of our oversight responsibilities on the intelligence committee both in the house and senate. i don't think it ever hurts to they are doing, how they are doing it, is it effective, do we still need to do it? notes"the new york times" that what ms. feinstein is talking about would be a "major undertaking." again, i don't know what she is talking about. on the house intelligence committee, we review things constantly. if you want to go through everything the nsa does that is something we will do. host: this afternoon's hearing before the house intelligence committee, what will you be asking those two? asked most of the questions in private sessions. we will ask the kind of questions that allows general alexander and general clapper to explain to the american people what we are and are not doing. made,is a lot of mistakes some honest and some for sensational valu

senator feinstein to name one.e same could be said about democrats as far as what they see should happen with the nsa and concerns expressed. >> senator feinstein is a democrat and we see a serious bipartisan shifting around here on this. but the coalition that's questioning the effectiveness of these programs, is very strong and i think that like this rally this weekend was representative spectrum of political opinions from libertarians to the green party, when justin put his amendment forward in the house, that had a strong bipartisan support. there are lots of people on both sides of the aisle very concerned about the implications of building this kind of surveillance infrastructure that could last for decades. >> which is what kelly o'donnell was reporting on as well, bipartisan support with one idea here. but the question i think a lot of people have at this point, whether or not the nsa aend yesterday, the concern that the nsa is not properly monitored and as some have referred to it, its own rogue agency her

coming up in ten minutes, an exclusive interview with senator dianne feinstein. her take on the shutdown and the tea party. >>> a late breaking development to keep a cr-v transit buses in service. the governor intervened negating a strike tomorrow and a 60-day cooling off period. transit workers threatened to walk off the job as early as tomorrow morning. jodi hernandez joins us with more. >> this is exactly what many riders, raj, have been praying for, for the governor to step in and help keep the buses rolling. now, until just a couple of hours ago, bus riders, ac bus riders didn't know if they would have a bus to catch at the bus stop tomorrow morning. thanks to the governor, the strike fears have been put on hold. >> we haven't heard anything from the governor at this point. we're moving ahead as if there will be a strike. >> that was ac transit just two hours ago. but the threat of a strike tomorrow is now off the table. as governor jerry brown takes action to keep buses rolling at least for now. the governor is calling for a seven-day investigation into the

it is not surprising people like peter king are finding common cause with people like diane feinsteinr even nancy pelosi, leaders from both political parties to defend these systems because they do invest those in power with extreme amounts of authority to do all sorts of things that people in power always wanted to. >> diane feinstein in fact is introducing legislation that would codify the nsa spying that would grant the nsa explicit authority to gather records, listing the numbers, duration, and time of all u.s. telephone calls. >> right. is there anything more indicative of just how broken washington is that the person who leads the senate intelligence committee, which is a committee created in the wake of the findings of the church committee in the mid-1870s that was intended to serve as a restraint and check what the intelligence committee does, is the greatest loyalist and the most servile devotee of protecting and shielding the authority of that community named diane feinstein? it just shows what a complete joke and travesty the idea of congressional oversight has actually bec

democratic senator diane feinstein said she's launching a major review of all intelligence collection programs. feinstein released a statement saying the national security agency didn't keep her committee properly informed of certain surveillance activities. the committee is responsible for overseeing the work and budget of the intelligence community. she says that oversight needs to be strengthened and increased. feinstein went on to say it's a big problem that president barack obama was not aware agents were monitoring german chancellor angela merkel's communications since 2002. she said she's opposed on gathering intelligence on leaders of u.s. allies. they face questions after questions regarding the nsa's work. they say the u.s. does not and will not monitor merkel's communications, and they say they're conducting a review of their intelligence gathering methods. >> we're acknowledging the tension this has caused. we understand this has caused concern in countries that are -- that represent some of our closest relationships internationally. and we're working to allay those concer

democratic senator dianne feinstein and long time defender of america's surveillance operation has called for a total review of all intelligence programs. she said, quote, unless the united states is engaged in hostility against a country or there is an emergency need for this type of surveillance, i do not believe that the united states should be collecting phone calls and e-mails of friendly presidents and prime ministers. for his part president obama stressed a need to find a balance between what is technically possible and what is right. >> what i'm confirm something that we're undergoing a complete review of how our intelligence operates out of the country. there are strict laws governoring what we do internally. that was the initial concern brought by snowdon disclosures. internationally there are less constraints on hou how our intelligence teams work. but as technology develops and expands, and the capacity for intelligence gathering becomes greater we have to make sure that we do things in the right way and reflect our values. >> reform efforts in congress includes the addition o

dianne feinstein and maybe other members of the committees are reacting to the image that they were notfully informed. i can assure you if they wanted to be fully informed they would have been. i spent a lot of time dealing with the oversight committees and they do not afail themselves of the information that would be available to them otherwise. i guess i see things differently. i see them precisely the opposite way. i do not believe for one moment that officials in other allied countries are going to some how cease cooperation in virtue of the fact that angela merkel's cell phone may or may not have been monitored. i'm sure they'll want this to go away. this is very much a politically driven thing. >> let's talk about the legislation being drilled town andownand proposed. how unusual is this. >> every time the patriotic has come up to be renewed has bee ts never been significant effort to push them back and quite the opposite, expand some of the laws. but i'm somewhat skeptical of this. i think you might see some changes to circumstances under which certain information can be accessed

senator diane feinstein says she was flabbergasted such spying could take place. she is calling for a total review of all such activity. >>> there are more problems for the contractor that operates speed cameras in baltimore county. the county claims xerox failed to recalibrate a dozen cameras in february. according to the "baltimore sun" xerox was forced to void 1400 tickets. the cameras were out of service for a month and the public was never alerted. xerox paid the county more than $57,000 as compensation. >>> we are looking at another beautiful and brisk day outside. taking a live look this noon. are we in for any changes this week? wjz is live with first warning coverage. march at the is in the outback. chelsea ingram is in the first warning center. >> hello. temperatures are on the cool side. take a look at the currents across the region. we have a lot of 50s. 57 at bwi marshall.

. >> senate intelligence committee chairwoman diane feinstein expressed outrage over allegations the u.s. spies on allies. she issued a statement monday saying, "i am totally opposed." the white house says it is reviewing the program that monitored the foreign leaders, but feinstein and her senate colleagues want to go one step further. she's calling for a review of all intelligence operations. >> these revelations call for a thorough review of the collections standards that we are using. >> senator feinstein says her committee was unaware the u.s. was listening in on private phone calls from friendly heads of state. senator john mccain wants to know who did know. >> obviously we're going to want to know exactly what the president knew and when he knew it. >> the white house won't say whether the president knew about the eavesdropping but admits damage has been done. >> we are mindful that some of these disclosures have caused tension in our relationships. >> elmar is part of a european delegation that is now in washington to urge the u.s. to stop spying on allies. >> i think we have

on acceptable clearly people want something better and i refuse to believe that people like diane feinstein on the left as senator who's recent op ed in the wall street journal read like something the chancellor for v. for vendetta would say you know some kind of authoritarian fascist like that and not the right senator lindsey graham who sounds almost identical to her and his narratives and rhetoric i refuse to believe that those are the best people out there able to represent us and able to run our country i couldn't agree more and i think a lot of americans agree with you david everyone check it out david seaman host of the david seaman our great podcast thanks so much for coming on man thank you. after the break i had the opportunity to speak with the public enemies professor griff i want to message.

delegation meets with senator feinstein this morning. on capitol hill, susan mcginnis, wjz eyewitness news. >> white house officials will meet with the european union delegates later today. in an interview the president says there needs to be additional constraints on how the u.s. gathers intelligence. >>> chris brown is out of jail. a judge reduced the charges to misdemeanor assault and ordered him released without bail. brown and a bodyguard are charged with getting in a fight with a man outside of a washington, d.c. hotel. brown is is due back in court next month. >>> an emergency landing in oklahoma is caught on camera. it skid to a stop on the runway sending sparks flying. the bottom line, the plane is broken but nobody is hurt. >>> turning to sports, the red sox are one game away from clinching the world series title. jon lester dominated on the mound the cardinals would keep it close until the 7th when david ross delivered a big hit. the red sox win 3-1 and take a 3-2 series lead in the series. game 6 is tomorrow night back up in

delegation meets with senator feinstein this morning.cginnis, cbs news, washington. >> the white house officials are also scheduled to meet with the e.u. delegation today. in an interview with abc news, president obama said there needs to be additional constraints on how the united states gathers intelligence. >>> at 10:00 this morning members of congress will hear from victims of a u.s. drone strike in pakistan. democratic congressman alan grayson is hosting a teacher in a primary school. his elderly mother was killed in a drone strike october 14. his two school age children were injured in that attack. the congress pang has called the public -- congressman has called the public to nch the american -- inform the american public about the hundreds killed in these attacks. >>> if you're trying to sign up for obamacare, you'll get annual extra six weeks. >> this is coming possibly in response to the massive problems with the healthcare.gov website. the obama administration will now allow individuals extra time to sign up for those insuranc

senator feinstein says she's totally opposed to spying on u.s.nd world leaders and complains that congress has not been kept in the loop. feinstein's republican counterpart in the intelligence committee, republican senator susan collins agrees and is quoted as saying she knows of no justification for collecting intel on our closest allies. senator feinstein quoted this morning in newspapers around the world, including spain's media outlets, also saying the spying scandal could break the climate of trust with spain. the obama administration has denied knowledge of the extent of the spying. the president said he'd launch a full review of the nsa program during an interview that aired last night on a cable network that's called fusion. >> the national security operations generally have one purpose, and that is to make sure that the american people are safe and that i'm making good decisions, and i'm the final user of all the intelligence that they gather. what we've seen over the last several years is their capacities continue to develop and expand,

country around the world here in washington the tone took a very serious turn as senator dianne feinstein a vocal n.s.a. supporter called out the agency she said with respect to the n.s.a. collection of intelligence on leaders of u.s. allies let me state unequivocally i am totally opposed i do not believe the united states should be collecting phone calls or e-mails of friendly presidents and prime ministers meanwhile on capitol hill the house intelligence committee is holding a hearing to discuss the role of pfizer in the surveillance of american citizens now pfizer or the foreign intelligence surveillance act is the piece of legislation that sets the guidelines for the n.s.a.'s bulk collection of foreign intelligence information this is the committee's second open hearing since former government contractor edward snowden leaked detailed information about how the programs operate back in june and a statement a house panel spokesperson said the hearing was in place to quote assess a number of proposals to improve transparency and strengthen privacy protections to further build the confide

they leave deep scar tissue. >> senator feinstein went on to urge b.a.r.t. unions to approve what she feels is a very generous package. you can see the entire interview we have with her on our website, nbcbayarea.com. search dianne feinstein. >>> you can also get the latest information on the po 0 tension b.a.r.t. strike on our website. at the top of the page a tab called b.a.r.t. strike resources that will take to you a map with real time traffic updates, commute alternatives and real time tweets from transit agencies across the bay area, plus if there has to be a b.a.r.t. strike, "today in the bay" will be on air early starting at 4:00 a.m. >> along with b.a.r.t. ac transit will be running. governor brown ordered a seven-day investigation into contract talks between the agency and its unions. meaning buses must run. it could lead to a 60-day cooling off period. the governor took similar action with the b.a.r.t. impasse in august, ac transit workers planned to walk off the job. >> good day to see parks including alcatraz will be reopened thanks to the deal

you talk about dianne feinstein being surprised she doesn't know or does this stretch to the americanation as a whole with possible outrage morning the citizens about what the country is doing or they just don't care? >> i think the average american citizen expects the intelligence organization to collect information to provide for their security and their safety. there is an intelligence failure that led to 9/11 and people don't want to see that repeated. so the average american is interested in making sure the information is collected that will be useful to them, not so much what the target might be. >> reporter: and bob we thank you very much indeed for that, joining us in our discussion former cia officer talking from the united kingdom. video emerged showing hostages in the philippines being shot at during a siege last month and the military said they were simply caught in the cross fire, as the army fought rebels in the southern city of zombawanka and we will hear from them in a moment and first we report. [gunfire] the maker of the on line video says it shows hostages shouting

senate intelligence chairwoman dianne feinstein expressed outrage that the u.s. spied on allies including german chancellor angela merkel. she issued a statement monday saying i am totally opposed. the white house said it's reviewing a program that moni r monitored the foreign leaders, but finestein and her senate colleagues want to go one step further. she's calling for review of all operations. >> she's revelations go for a further review. >> reporter: senator feinstein said her committee is unaware the u.s. is listening in on private phone calls from friendly heads of state. senator john mccain wants to know who did know. >> obviously, we are going to want to know exactly what the president knew and what he knew it. >> reporter: the white house won't know whether it knew about the merkel eavesdropping but admits it's been done. >> we are mindful some of these disclosures have caused tensions in our relationships. >> reporter: the white house insists the nsa programs keep america and its allies safe. >> we need each other. it's a policy. >> reporter: elmar brok

. >> he denies he put it in and harry reid and dianne feinstein aagree.hey say he didn't do it. >> he didn't have anything to do with it. >> dianne feinstein says i approved the money. it passed both houses before. why now? because there is no money. isn't funded. it shuts down, that would be terrible. barge traffic and this river is important. we wanted to fund it but because it's part -- >> why slot it into a government funding -- why put that in when there is 50, 100 projects all over the country? >> why put in money for the widow of frank lautenberg who has already got $16 million. >> that was in there, too. >> that's much more offensive. of all the things to put in. >> what the folks are probably asking now is, when you have this bill, why just not have this bill and then put that into why unique sneak this in? >> they always sneak things in. they like to spend wherever they can. what i think is wonderful for the first time people are saying oh, i didn't do it it they used to brag. mitch mcconnell ran ads last election bragging about he got the first

feinstein said i am totally opposed to nsa surveillance of u.s. allies. it is abundantly clear that a total review of all intelligence programs is necessary. the white house says that president obama was not aware of just how extensive the nsa's intelligence gathering was until this summer but the president insists there will be a complete review of the nsa's spying policy. >> what we've seen over the last several years is their capacity has continued to develop and expand and that's why i'm initiating a review to make sure that what they're able to do doesn't necessarily mean what they should doing. >> in washington a european delegation arrived this week, looking for answer he about spying claims, including new allegations the u.s. monitored 60 million called in spain last december. >> figure out why this kind of massive is happening, in the end we are fighting a battle in terms of security. we need to get that balance right. >> and while president obama maintains he is the final user of all nsa intelligence european officials are not backing do

senator feinstein, who is the chair of the senate intelligence committee, had presented an op-ed last week in "wall street journal," where she said -- and she was citing testimony from the fbi director and others, that if these programs had not been in place, we could have likely been aware of the domestic plot for 9/11 and prevented it -- so my question to you is -- isn't there a purpose for these programs, in terms of protecting american lives? is there a purpose? >> if they were actually protecting american lives, there would be, but that could le -- from june. later he was recently grilled by leahy in october, and said that there was only one plot that was detected, involving a man sending a thousand dollars to some charity. so that is one. for $8,000 -- >> a charity that actually attacked the kenyan mall. >> but 54 is very different from one. that's a big line -- >> are you suggesting that senator feinstein lied last week when she printed the op-said that cited the 54? >> yes, i think she's misleading. >> the head of the nsa -- >> yes, he admitted lying, gave the least untruthful

feinstein also said the administration assured her surveillance would not continue, a point that some officials later challenged. while the president may be poised to order a ban on eavesdropping on friendly leaders it's not year what the white house knew and when. the agency said it did not inform the president of reported monitoring of german chancellor angela merkel but the "l.a. times" said current and foreign officials said the white house and state department signed off on it. foreign ambassadors absolutely descended on the capitol to voice their discontent. germany calling for an investigation whether the nsa considered angela merkel a terrorist and james costas was swamped in spain amid the latest report that the u.s. tracked 60 million kaulgs in less than a month there. a landmark bill is said to be introduced in congress addressing oversight. the freedom act would end bulk collection of u.s. phone records and make it harder to target u.s. communications and require the government to more aggressively purge information accidentally collected on americans. also today on capito

senator feinstein said her committee is unaware the u.s. is listening in on private phone calls from friendly heads of state. senator john mccain wants to know who did know. >> obviously, we are going to want to know exactly what the president knew and what he knew it. >> reporter: the white house won't know whether it knew about the merkel eavesdropping but admits it's been done. >> we are mindful some of these procedures caused tensions in our relationships. >> reporter: the white house insists the nsa programs keep america and its allies safe. elmar brown is part of a u.s. delegation to stop spying on allies. >> i think we have to make a clear determination fight terrorists but not spying on friends. >> now, there is a house intelligence committee hearing today to look at some of these proposed changes. the consensus here on capitol hill seems to be growing that changes are needed. anne-marie, there's said to be about 20 pieces of legislation that call for new limits said to the netherlands. a nuclear plant in england automatically shut

. >> senator feinstein called that the agency. she said, with respect to the nsa collection of intelligence on allied leaders, i am totally opposed. i do believe the united states -- i do not believe the united states should be collecting phone calls from allied presidents and prime ministers. they are holding a hearing to discuss the activity of fisa which sets guidelines for the nsa bold collection of information. former contractor edward snowden leet important information on how -- leaked detailed information on how this is done. a number of proposals have been sent to improve transparency and strengthen privacy protections to further build the confidence of the american public and our nations fisa programs. i am joined now by sam sacks, who is live at the capital. the hearing was supposed to consider a number of proposals.e proposals entail? >> good to be with you. just to recap, the pfizer court is this top-secret court -- this fisa court is this top-secret court that provides the oversight over the nsa. they have to go to th

basically airing our detery laundry. >> i want to talk about feinstein.t is because i said over and over on the show that i like what snowden did in terms of the domestic stuff, but i don't like what he reveals. i think we should be dhoog to other countries. -- should be doing that to other countries. dianne feinstein has no problem with the nsa collecting bulk data from american citizens. i don't get that at all. if she is the senator from california or coitsburg? >> what is wrong with taking bulk data? sear -- seriously. i am for both data in america and spying on those foreign countries. >> i mean, look, i think if are you talking into a machine that goes in the air it is not going to be private. it is harder to make it private than public. if you really want to get it private write it down and send it to somebody. >> people will be tearing things off and then handing it to you. >> i will tell you what happens in business you say what do you think of this person and they say i will talk to you tomorrow. if you will hire somebody and you say what do you

when it comes to statements that senator feinstein has made, i would refer you to her about them. what we've made clear is that we are undertaking a review of our activities around the world with a special emphasis on examining whether we have the appropriate posture when it comes to heads of state. examining how we coordinate with our closest allies and partners and examining what further guiding principles or constraints might be appropriate for our efforts. so the review encompasses a lot of activity, but there is an emphasis, a special emphasis on those areas. beyond that, it's on -- the review is ongoing, so i'm not going to discuss the details or the outcomes going back to julie's question until it's completed. finish but as i said, we've made some decisions, the president has made some decisions, and i would expect that we'll make more as this process continues. and then when it's over, we'll have more to say about the decisions we've made. >> so you're not ruling out the accuracy of -- >> well, i would just refer you to chairman feinstein about that. >> all right. on anoth

time hasefore, the come, unequivocally, per the release of the feinstein reports.the key findings of the feinstein report and of a parallel report commissioned and prepared and provided to the british prime minister in relation to the united kingdom's involvement in these activities must now be made public. and we will not stop calling for the publication of the spencer real until at least a sufficient amount of it is produced. >> ben emmerson, thank you for being with us, the u.n. special andorteur on human rights counterterrorism who has issued an interim report on its investigation into u.s. drone strikes entered the killings. his findings will be debated today at the u.n. general assembly. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. back, a drone operator. stay with us. ♪ [music break] >> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. >> we turn now to look at how the u.s. uses drones, and their impact -- this time, through the eyesf one of the first u.s. drone pil

senator feinstein saying she totally oppose to the collection of intelligence on leaders of u.s. allies. and that oversight must be strengthened. and that is tonight's speed read. >>> so, how many times you have heard president obama say. this. >> if you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your health care plan. if you like your health your healthcare plan you can keep your healthcare plan. >> if you have got health insurance through your employer, you can keep your lelt insurance, keep your choice of doctor, keep your plan. >> if you like your healthcare plan you will be able to keep your healthcare plan, period. >> period. the president promising all americans they can keep their healthcare plan, period. well, now we are hearing a slightly different tune from david axelrod. >> most people are going to keep their own plan. the majority of people in this country, the vast majority of people in this country are keeping their plan. >> most. so what happened to all. that's what was promised. and white house press secretary jay carney now admitting this. >> what the president sai

. >> general, i was shocked to see dianne feinstein demand more from the nsa. a friend said her going up to the nsa is like joe biden going after amtrak. so i'm wondering from your perspective, are you concerned about too much oversight? are you willing or do you acknowledge there needs to be more oversight, more disclosure and transparency about these practices? >> look, i'm fully in favor of more disclosure and more transparency. it's an easy do to the committee. now, it's quite another thing how much you want to make public to the american public and, the really interesting question here is now the demand that european publics want to be told how we spy. chance lor merkel asked the watergate question, what did the president know and when did he know it? a foreign loader asking that of an american leader kind of shows where the center lean of the current conversation now rests. we need to kind of push that back towards the middle a bit. >> general, sort of listening to dianne feinstein being shocked this was going on sort of reminded me of do i an feinstein a

now what's what's happening and what's really bothering me here is the big lies continue dianne feinstein who are selfish complicit in this whole arrangement just lie. mike rogers on the house side they are complicit what she says oh if we had this before nine eleven it would have been prevented just the opposite is true and all one needs to do is go to colin wildly testimony from the f.b.i. showing that it was a lack of sharing it was a lack of opaqueness so a lack of of transparency actually that contributed to the fact that these things weren't sorted together the dots were not connected stovepipes or in existence and it's just the opposite of what dianne feinstein is saying and she should know and she does know that he she is not telling the truth she is not saying i'm afraid we're brought on a time when nothing would happen like trust politicians here many thanks to my guests today in washington and in london thanks to our viewers for watching us here and remember. the. good lumber tour. was able to build a most sophisticated. doesn't sound anything tunes mission to teach creation wh

now what's what's happening and what's really bothering me here is the big lies continue dianne feinstein who are selfish complicit in this whole arrangement just like. pictures on the house side they are complicit what she says oh if we had this before nine eleven it would have been prevented just the opposite is true and all one needs to do is go to kohli and riley rallies testimony from the f.b.i. showing that it was a lack of sharing it was a lack of opaque opaqueness so a lack of of transparency actually that contributed to the fact that these things weren't sorted together the dots were not connected stovepipes were in existence and it's just the opposite of what dianne feinstein is saying and she should know and she does know that he she is not telling the truth she's not what i'm saying i'm afraid we're brought on a time when nothing would happen you would not trust politicians here many thanks to my guests today in washington and in london thanks to our viewers for watching us here on c.n.n. and remember. meeting with. some. real damage and complexity of this oil spill was not so

dianne feinstein is not mincing her words. she spoke on the senate floor just earlier this evening about the financial impact to so many workers who live paycheck to paycheck. after addressing congress, she spoke to us exclusively from capitol hill. senator, across the aisle most of your colleagues from arizona who we're talking about here said this is a shameful episode in the nation's history. would you agree with senator mccain? >> well, yeah. i do. because it's all needless. i mean, keeping the government running and paying our bills ought to be pretty simple, direct things to do. >> we'll have more with senator feinstein, including her stern recommendation to b.a.r.t. employees. >>> stay with us here at nbc for continuing coverage of the shutdown and debt ceiling deadline. if we receive news of a major development during this newscast, we will bring it to you. our website also is a great resource, nbcbayarea.com. >>> talks under way on both coasts from washington, d.c., to oakland where b.a.r.t. and its union continues to

nice to see you. >> thank you very much. >> diane feinstein says the u.s.ping on its allies. but this is what james clapper said today. >> it's one of the first things i learned in intel school, 1963. this is a fundamental given in the intelligence business. leadership intentions, no matter what level you're talking about, that can be military leaders as well. >> do you believe the allies have conducted or at any time any type of espionage activity against the united states of america, our intelligence services, our leaders or otherwise? >> absolutely. >> so i thought that was pretty interesting, mike. i wanted to ask you about that. since you know about the intel community, have there always been -- how would you react to this notion of maybe tensions between the intelligence community and the administration? >> well, this has been going on forever. some people refer to it as the oldest profession, if not the second oldest. so the idea somehow that france and germany and spain are outraged over this, but at the same time, frankly, are doing the same thing.

>> i want to say something good about diane feinstein.e group which is always her once again showed her head and said this should have never happened. this san ally. this is simple decency. smart politicians want to know everything. i worked for tip. every single morning he grilled three of us. what do you hear. what do you hear. anything i ought to know. anything special? he grilled us like a vacuum cleaner. doesn't the president do that to his people? isn't it their job to tell him every single thing he's heard about whether somebody is whispering at the coffee machine, anything that may be of help to him in running this country. why didn't they read the local papers at home. they need to know to cover their backs. >> do i think you can draw a distinction between southeast issues we saw in those clips things like what was happening with the irs, fast and furious. you can understand why those issues may not have percolated. when you're talking about things like spying on close u.s. allies and when you're talk about problems with the roll