plus, today here in the studio. plus, the jobs figures are disastrous ahead of rachel reeves statement tomorrow. and was donald trump right to send the national guard and the marines into los angeles to deal with the riots? all of thatin to deal with the riots? all of that in just a moment. first, let's get the news with mark white. >> good evening. i'm mark white at the gb news centre. the latest headlines. the austrian chancellor, christian stocker, has described the deadly school shooting in the city of graz as a dark day in the history of the country. earlier this evening, another victim died, bringing the total number killed to ten. the gunman, who also killed himself, was a 21 year old man from the local area. he was a former pupil at the secondary school. police say he used a handgun and a long barrelled

weapon to carry out the attack. he wasn't known to the authorities and apparently had a licence to legally possess the weapons. a national minute's silence will be held on wednesday, followed by three days of national mourning. president trump has defended his decision to send in the national guard and the marines to provide support to immigration enforcement officers, who have been subject to violent protests in los angeles. speaking a short time ago in the oval office, donald trump claimed l.a. was under siege and accused protesters of being paid agitators. after several days of violence. >> you would have had a horrible situation had i not sent them in. horrible. you�*d be reporting on a lot of death and a lot of destruction. that's not going to destruction. that�*s not going to take place. i think if you look every night, it got less and less. they were met with very strong force. the bad people,

the bad, sick people that do what they do. but these are paid people in many cases, not in all cases, but in many cases. and they really are. they're agitators. >> reform uk have announced their new chairman after the shock resignation of zia yousef last week. david bull is a former deputy chair of the party and long term ally of nigel farage. he�*s perhaps best known as a broadcaster and tv presenter. mr farage said the new chairman's role will be to give leadership to activists, not to get involved in the admin. greta thunberg has arrived in france after being deported by israel for attempting to break the countw's naval blockade of country's naval blockade of gaza. thunberg has accused israel of kidnapping her and another 11 activists in international waters. the group

were picked up on board. the uk flagged madeleine off the coast of egypt on monday. they had been attempting to take a symbolic amount of aid into gaza. the prime minister has met with the families of the southport victims today, and promised £5 million in funding for a memorial garden, alongside deputy prime minister angela rayner. the pm met with the families of bebe, king elsie dot stancombe and alice aguilar in downing street. the gardens will reflect their shared love of music and dance and the arts, and an act of thank you to the people of southport for their support in the aftermath of the tragedy. that's it. you�*re right tragedy. that's it. you're right up tragedy. that's it. you're right up to date with the latest headlines from the gb news centre. i'm back in an hour. in centre. i�*m back in an hour. in the meantime, it's over to nigel farage. >> for the very latest gb news. direct your smartphone. sign up

to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com/poll. >> so today, ed miliband says that nuclear energy is low carbon energy that gives us guaranteed base load power. who knew quite how you can be an advocate of that model, whilst at the same time an advocate of intermittent energy? i don't intermittent energy? i don�*t quite know. he's going to commit the government to a further £14 billion for the sizewell c plant. we'll debate in the next few minutes whether that�*s the few minutes whether that's the right thing to do, whether it's the right model of a nuclear power station, and why our nuclear energy costs so much more than any other country in the world per kilowatt hour. we'll also debate how on the 29th of may, the lights nearly

went out. did you know that? now? i bet you didn�*t. i�*m now? i bet you didn't. i�*m joined in the studio by clive moffatt, former government adviser on energy, serrano jayawardena, who of course himself, former minister, and joe phillips, former adviser to paddy ashdown. let's get straight into this, clive. on the 29th of may, i'm told that the 29th of may, i'm told that the national grid had to make what are called 24,742 balancing actions to literally keep the lights on. what is it? sounds very complicated. >> well, this is happening with some frequency, and it�*s to do some frequency, and it's to do with the fact that the, you know, we have a system now where we don't have as much push we don�*t have as much push button on supply, flexible gas generation that we needed. we�*re often reliant upon interconnectors which don�*t interconnectors which don't provide when they need to provide. >> which means we import electricity from other

countries, literally from norway, from northern. >> this government's policy seems to be they want more of them, more interconnection and less reliance upon domestic flexible generation. 50 there are a number of reasons why that is happening, and i think we're going to see more of it. the point is that we are, as we discussed before many times, is that we are heading for increased frequency and magnitude of blackouts, and we're involuntary blackouts. >> it's going to happen. >> it's going to happen. >> yeah. yeah. we can look at that. also locking in consumers to escalating costs. and today�*s to escalating costs. and today's announcement is simply worsens that position. >> explain. >> explain. >> government have announced that this announcement today would increase security and reduce bills. right. on security. it won't do hardly security. it won�*t do hardly anything. i mean, we barely makes up for the loss, retirement, loss of existing nuclear plant by the 20305. even assuming sizewell c gets built along with hinkley gets completed. and the second point,

it doesn't really make any difference and doesn't help the fact that as a point i've raised fact that as a point i�*ve raised before many times, we have 35 gas plants, half of which are going to see the end of their economic life by the 20305. and we're doing nothing to replace that. what i call flexible, affordable capacity, which contributes between 30 and 60% of power, especially depending on what the sun is shining and whether the wind is blowing. yeah. so we it�*s not going to do on bills. the big issue on bills is, as you said earlier, is nuclear i5 is, as you said earlier, is nuclear is very expensive. >> 50 nuclear is very expensive. >> so let's just drill into this. >> and one of the reasons for that, i think, is that i remember the days when i was operating as a consultant, when british energy went bust. and at the time, in many ways, that was like the passing of the british nuclear industry. i remember talking to a lot of nuclear people in the industry who were saying, we�*ll lose ability, we'll lose technicians, we'll lose skill sets because. >> we were a world.

>> we were a world. >> leader in manufacturing plants. >> we were a world leader in this, weren't we? yeah. >> and at that point, that was. and then nothing happened until, of course, we sold it to edf. and then we got locked into edf�*s way of doing things and edf's way of doing things and edf's technology. and interestingly enough, that technology is the only thing it's delivered at hinckley is, is delays. it should have started in 2017. it will now possibly start in 2031 and overrun on costs, which was going to be 22 billion is now going to be 22 billion is now going to be more like 50 billion. >> edf are a french company. how is it that per unit our nuclear energy is over double that of france's? how can this be? >> i�*m not an expert on civil >> i'm not an expert on civil engineering in particularly in the context of nuclear power, so i cannot be very precise about that. i can only surmise that we have lost manufacturing and supply chain resilience because

of the reasons i described earlier. yeah. and that we don�*t have skill sets and we're dependent on labour, which is not here but has got to be brought in. so skill sets. and if you like manufacturing capability and also the ability to manage this kind of project, you've got to remember how long ago it was before we when we built the last. >> this is just extraordinary. i mean, joe, you're you know, you your party liberal democrats, big advocates of, you know, solar and wind. and what clive is saying is the whole thing is a mess. >> well, the whole thing is a mess. but that is successive governments kicking it into the long grass on the things that you've mentioned, clive, which is about training people to do it. i mean, nick clegg famously said, well, if we go for nuclear, it's fine, but it's going to take 20 years before. >> we're almost there. yes, exactly. >> but this is the problem, and it's the problem. i think that is maybe not exclusively, but it is maybe not exclusively, but it is particular to british politics. is this appalling

is particular to british politics. is this app